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Post by Tasneem on Apr 12, 2004 14:56:42 GMT -6
Yeah, well other teams get comebacks sometimes... The main thing is that they won even though the bases were loaded in the ninth.
I agree with Mr. Klaas. You're giving them too much credit. I see that the Cardinals have better records than the Cubs and the Astros. Well, see about the records in the end and who does get to go to the playoffs. Cincinnati has the best record so far.
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Post by ZacharyKlaas on Apr 12, 2004 14:59:15 GMT -6
Yes, and Ken Griffey, Jr. is hitting homeruns again! That could be pretty important - the Reds have been spinning their wheels ever since getting the Griff from Seattle, as he's been on the Several-Years-Disabled-List for a while now.
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Post by Tasneem on Apr 12, 2004 15:08:11 GMT -6
Yeah, I was pretty surprised.
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Post by ZacharyKlaas on Apr 16, 2004 6:57:01 GMT -6
Canada's teams are 3-6 (Toronto) and 2-7 (Montreal). It's going to be a LONG season.
At least Toronto finally managed to remember how to beat Detroit, against which it is now 2-3 (up from 0-3). Still, my grandma should be able to beat Detroit, so that's not quite the lovely sign it should be.
Argh. Cards aren't doin' too well, either.
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Post by Tasneem on Apr 16, 2004 14:18:06 GMT -6
Well, lets keep in mind it's only the beginning of the season. Hopefully, the rest will be better.
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Post by RCH Ryan Grass on Apr 16, 2004 14:34:33 GMT -6
I prredict a below-.500 season for the Cards unless they can add some good pitching, or ditch Dave Duncan.
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Post by Tasneem on Apr 16, 2004 15:16:32 GMT -6
Dave Duncan is a loser and I would be glad if he left. The Cards will be over .500! Don't say such things...
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Post by RCH Ryan Grass on Apr 16, 2004 19:29:21 GMT -6
In fact, they just need to clear everything from Duncan and LaRussa up (Lamping, Jocketty, the whole works). Maybe then they could actually be a decent team. They also need to make Cody McKay their closer.
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Post by Tasneem on Apr 16, 2004 20:56:00 GMT -6
Hey, I was just saying that McKay should be the closer to someone else. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that.
Maybe, the Cardinals will fire everyone. Then get new people who will acquire good players. How did they miss out on signing a decent pitcher when multiple players agree to defer their money? That's just pathetic.
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Post by RCH Ryan Grass on Apr 16, 2004 21:27:39 GMT -6
I still remember last season, when the orioles put their best pitcher up for trade (he was 13-2 halfway through the season), and we didn't even look at him. He ended up going to the Yankees. (Grrrrrr.)
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Post by ZacharyKlaas on Apr 16, 2004 21:44:30 GMT -6
Well, that could have been the money factor more than the lack of interest factor. The Yankees, even after the impact of the luxury tax, are still the major deep pockets team, and they're going to get the big players. St. Louis, on the other hand, is the place that loves baseball enough to convince Mark McGwire a few years ago that he had made enough money and it's good enough to go where you're appreciated. That reminds me, I saw a game back in 1996 at SkyDome in Toronto where the Blue Jays played the Oakland A's. This was when McGwire was still an Athletic (he moved to St. Louis the next year), and I saw him absolutely crush this pitch into the seats, to the absolute boredom of the Toronto fans. Seriously. I was looking around going "Hey, you just saw a Mark McGwire home run. This matters!" The fans were busy amusing themselves with songs of their own devising about the Argonauts (the CFL football team in Toronto...nice, they can't even figure out which sport they're watching.) Montreal fans, what few they are, at least are there to watch the ball game. Incidentally, what's wrong with Dave Duncan exactly? He has a pretty good reputation as a pitching coach. Also, my Total Baseball says LaRussa's an above average manager. (Of course, it only goes up to 1998. Perhaps he's had a bad five years since then?)
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Post by RCH Ryan Grass on Apr 16, 2004 21:46:55 GMT -6
Duncan has turned every halfway-reputable pitcher that comes here into a complete wreck (Ankiel was actually pretty good, and then he came here)
As for LaRussa, he's sucked as a coach here, and is still living off his good years as the manager of the A's. Sooner or later (hopefully), people will realize just how crappy he is.
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Post by Tasneem on Apr 16, 2004 21:54:47 GMT -6
LaRussa messes the Cardinals up in crucial games. For some reason, the Cardinals get to the playoffs but with LaRussa's management they end up losing sadly.
I remember Ankiel being good... And some other pitchers were good until they started getting used to the pitching around here.
Luckily, St. Louis has such good fans that they are able to convince players to stay here. I don't even want to know what would happen if it wasn't like that.
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Post by ZacharyKlaas on Apr 16, 2004 22:04:33 GMT -6
One manager I'll never understand why anyone thinks he's any good is Jimy Williams. The system Total Baseball uses to rate managers says he's lost games for whatever team he's managed every single year. (Though, again, my book only goes to 1998.) LaRussa's done much better than that. Jimy Williams is addicted to weird double-switches in late innings that have no discernable effect on whether games are won or not, but makes him feel like he's in a "chess match" with the other manager. Sheesh. He also has a bad habit of bringing fastball pitchers in to face homerun hitters in late innings. By contrast, Earl Weaver, still my favourite manager in baseball history, lost games for his team, always the Orioles, only 6 years out of 17 he managed. Maybe the Cardinals should find out what he's doing these days.
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Post by RCH Ryan Grass on Apr 16, 2004 22:05:14 GMT -6
If that were the case, we'd be Philadelphia
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