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Post by FCM on Aug 19, 2006 4:02:30 GMT -6
lol
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Post by Maximos Qutreh Bar Idwharioun on Aug 19, 2006 9:36:06 GMT -6
Tell you one thing I am beginning to find bad about the GSO- The MCS never actually asked people to join their organisation. It seems that by going on peoples' forums and inviting them, and then arguing with them if they decline, it's not at all surprising that they may become hostile to you. I appreciate that the GSO may not yet have the fame that the MCS had when it was at its height, but advertising the GSO makes it sound like it's a product rather than a non-profit organisation. I feel that you may be putting too much pressure on MCS nations to join, that's all.
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Post by Tasneem on Aug 19, 2006 13:31:19 GMT -6
*cries* It's hard to be mature when you're not included for being a girl!!!
(Kidding, but only partially.)
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Post by Graius on Aug 19, 2006 16:33:09 GMT -6
So, in other words Max we're damned if we do, damned if we don't. Natopia tells us that they're pissed off at not being officially invited (and Tasneem, I was under the impression you were a man), so we extend a formal invitation (which goes against our anti-poaching policy), and when that is rejected we make no further comment on the matter (except for this instance), yet suddenly we're condemned for "advertising" and inviting people in because of an extraordinary circumstance, and condemned for arguing where there has been no argument following the invitation.
I re-iterate: this is the only instance in which the GSO has made a formal invitation to another nation, and policy discourages such invitations, as "poaching" from the GSO. On the issue of products and non-profit organisations, such entities do provide goods and services, and whilst the GSO is a NPO, it still provides a service, just as the RSPCA provides the service of rescuing animals, and Amnesty International provides the service of freeing prisoners of conscience.
No member of the board has put any pressure on MCS member nations to join the GSO, board policy discourages such behaviour, and no formal invitations have been extended to any other nations, nor have there been any confrontations over such matters. The GSO respects the decisions of nations to remain with the MCS, as is their right as sovereign entities.
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Post by FCM on Aug 19, 2006 17:23:10 GMT -6
aww tasneem *hug*
anyway while its been fun bein outraged an havin a big argument, i believe all that can be said has been said and all that can be done has been done. gentlemen (and gentlewoman) i think its time to return things to normal and get used used to our new positions. i wish u luck with this new map thing which u seem to take so seriously.
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Post by Nathan on Aug 19, 2006 19:02:40 GMT -6
Ben... i don't know how many times i've said this... but we were pissed that Novasolum didnt make more of an effort to include us... not the GSO.
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Post by Tasneem on Aug 19, 2006 20:58:34 GMT -6
I know, I'm halfway used to people assuming that I'm a guy. I mean, what girl likes sports and micronations? Oh wait... that's me! You micronation guys need to stop generalizing that everyone's a guy!
Ok, I'm done, I have this rant every so often when someone mistakes me for a guy. Believe me, it's happened a whole lot.
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Post by Brian Capelle on Aug 19, 2006 22:52:15 GMT -6
1. This is why micronational maps are pointless. They create bad wills for no real reason. All of my recent micronational bad experiences are dealing with the map system.
2. GSO does on the other hand make more sense than MCS, and is sexier than MCS, but map quality isn't what it's all about.
3. I support the Novasolum withdrawal simply because a treaty that binds us to nations for 10 years is not something I support, especially when relationships with individual members CAN get worse or better over time.
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Post by Nathan on Aug 20, 2006 1:25:44 GMT -6
it its defense, the 10 years thing was a type apparently. but still, doesnt change anything for me.
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Post by Brian Capelle on Aug 20, 2006 13:43:14 GMT -6
i know it was a typo, it does not change that that is what the treaty states and what we signed.
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