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Post by Z on Oct 28, 2005 9:22:49 GMT -6
I ask that we begin talks about restablishing releations. Lavalons president is no longer Xon but John Sager. Please reconsider the natopian stance on our releationship.
Zachary Azillin Cheif Justice of Lavalon
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Post by Tasneem on Oct 28, 2005 11:33:20 GMT -6
How many times do I have to say no on this?
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Post by Brian Capelle on Oct 28, 2005 13:09:56 GMT -6
I believe it has been said that it was only due to xon's presidency that you continued to say no.
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Post by Z on Oct 28, 2005 13:10:42 GMT -6
Xon isnt a citzen let alone president I thought thats were we disagread. If not then forget it.
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Post by Tasneem on Oct 28, 2005 13:57:52 GMT -6
Whatever. I'm leaving it up to Nate
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Post by Nathan on Oct 28, 2005 14:26:51 GMT -6
I know I originally said that; that if Xon was out of power we would resume relations.
But, I do not beleive in Lavalon as a nation anymore. I can appreciate your perserverance, but Lavalon is dead. Carson and Brian and Xon left within days of each other, two of them come back when hell breaks lose... No, Lavalon is stuck in a cyclical fashion... How many times has Carson left and returned? Or even Xon... I recall he left once and founded Avalonia... No, Lavalon is in a state of infinite regress... lose 3 citizens, 2 come back... you all start over. Lose 3 again, 2 come back "only until it gets better." Repeat.
You should all focus on Sullifree and Alrodria instead of Lavalon... I chose Natopia over Lavalon and I have never regretted that decision, it has brought more fulfillment to my life than even serving under Klaas in Lavalon, which was a wonderful time indeed.
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Post by Z on Oct 28, 2005 17:59:22 GMT -6
ok
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Post by Aryeztur on Nov 14, 2005 16:10:42 GMT -6
Hear hear....
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Post by xon on Nov 14, 2005 18:36:54 GMT -6
My, my, how Lavalon has gone down the tubes.
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Post by Nathan on Nov 14, 2005 21:15:29 GMT -6
Speaking of going down tubes... *ahem* Were you not on your way out?
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Post by Carson Smith on Nov 27, 2005 8:48:50 GMT -6
First off, Z did not have any authority from me to start this discussion. He cannot represent the Lavalonian government in diplomatic matters now nor could he then. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused, and ANY LAVALONIAN THAT POSTS IN A FOREIGN NATION ABOUT DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH LAVALON WITHOUT MY PERMISSION WILL BE PUNISHED IN THE FUTURE.
Second, I remind you that Neem and Nate were the ones who started this cycle. Neem gave the presidency to Xon and also appointed him Chief Justice. I warned you not to trust him, and you ignored me. There is a resolution in the Assembly right now on Lavalon's withdrawal from the M.C.S., but if it does not pass, you will not get Klaasiya from us.
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Post by Nathan on Nov 27, 2005 15:10:02 GMT -6
What an abrubt change. You notice that Z inquires about Natopia and Lavalon becoming friends again, and then you decide against giving us land that you don't even want anymore.
If you don't trust Xon so much, why is he so powerful in Ronen?
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Post by Carson Smith on Nov 27, 2005 16:39:15 GMT -6
We have not decided against giving you the land. It needs to be considered by the G.A. Lavalon believes in following democratic process.
I allowed Xon to become a Ronenian citizen because I felt that, despite his background, he would work for the good of Ronen as opposed to advancing his own agenda. I have seen nothing to suggest that is not the case thus far. Additionally, he does not have much power at all. Deputy Minister of Domestic Affairs is not a major post, and Baron is purely an honorary title that he received because he saved our forums, which I don't think you can say isn't big contribution.
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Post by Tasneem on Nov 27, 2005 17:59:40 GMT -6
Funny... if I remember correctly, you weren't entirely there to say anything about Xon getting into presidency until a bit later. Everyone kind of left from everywhere... So, if you would, don't blame me, cause if it bothered you so much, you wouldn't have left Lavalon and then come back. And, I never did trust him... at all.
VAUS anyone? Three people left: me, Z, and Xon. Two went against one and that one left. And then people trailed back. But I got over it. I'm not mad at Z. And I'm pretty sure I was nice to you after you went and joined all these other nations.
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Post by Carson Smith on Nov 27, 2005 18:34:29 GMT -6
Neem, I wasn't here because I had computer difficulties. I don't remember the exact details of the entire situation, but at some point Xon said he was coming back to Lavalon and I opposed it but you and Nate let down your guard and eventually let him become a citizen. You then gave him the presidency, which was really not fulfilling your committment to the nation.
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