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Post by Nathan on Mar 4, 2007 1:44:37 GMT -6
with neem being gone we need to consider the possibility of replacing her has prime minister.
now, the prime minister doesnt really do much... except "administer the ministries" which... what does that even mean? seriously.
so i suggest we just get rid of the office. itll require a constitutional amendment.
what does everyone else think?
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Post by FCM on Mar 4, 2007 11:31:18 GMT -6
well its the oldest continued office in natopia isnt it? be a shame to abolish it just like that
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Post by mz on Mar 4, 2007 11:48:42 GMT -6
I'm fine with getting rid of it if she doesn't come back. Did it do anything anyway? like was it important that we had that position?
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Post by Brian Capelle on Mar 5, 2007 12:42:19 GMT -6
It would do something if the Ministries ever went "out of line" but that's difficult since Nate runs half of them and they really don't tend to actually do anything. I mean, with me the MoIA has been doing a little bit but we started way after Neem left.
The scary thing is the census will be back again soon and it would be a shame for neem to lose her citizenship but if she does not return in just over a month she will so the PM title will barely matter anyway.
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Post by FCM on Mar 5, 2007 13:11:50 GMT -6
have u still not been able to contact her?
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Post by Nathan on Mar 5, 2007 16:07:03 GMT -6
it would be a shame to abolish the office. right now its very redundant though... it would be like the US president having a Chief Secretary to manage the different federal departments.
The only other option would be to abolish some other office and give the PM those duties.
in the past, the PM was leader of the frenzy, so we could abolish the chancellor again and let the PM lead the frenzy. (but keep it the same job, basically changing the name from chancellor to prime minister)
or perhaps abolish the Grand Consul and let the PM do that stuff.
during the republic the prime minister was simply the minister with most seniority, so it was just a title and there were no extra duties.
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Post by FCM on Mar 5, 2007 16:15:48 GMT -6
i think we should keep it as a title, like in the republic, rather than abolish anything
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Post by Brian Capelle on Mar 5, 2007 22:28:08 GMT -6
Yeah, definately, don't dump it, and don't replace her for now. Maybe it is as simple as enacting legislation where at the end of MZ's term (neem hopefully to god will be back by then) the PM get's the chancellor's job.
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Post by Nathan on Mar 5, 2007 22:37:42 GMT -6
id still like to have at least ONE position elected in the government tho.
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Post by Brian Capelle on Mar 5, 2007 22:53:45 GMT -6
You could make it elected I guess... We would probably keep her in office since she has always be PM... but yanno technically the Emperor is elected.
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Post by Nathan on Mar 5, 2007 23:01:11 GMT -6
you keep saying that but im not. the constitution you wrote makes it semi-hereditary  ok well the real problem in the line of succession. shes also crown princess, second in line to the throne. and prime minister is 3rd in line. and the constitution doesnt go beyond that. i was thinking of scrapping that part of the constitution and making the order of succession more along the lines of other monarchies... with the lords of the demesnes in line in order of rank and seniority. |
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Post by mz on Mar 5, 2007 23:40:12 GMT -6
lol well its fine with me.
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Post by Brian Capelle on Mar 6, 2007 14:37:52 GMT -6
Fantastic to me too... and YOU were elected whether that is what the Constitution says or not |
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Post by mz on Mar 7, 2007 21:02:50 GMT -6
lol yea.
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