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Post by Nathan on Jan 1, 2005 16:55:00 GMT -6
What about it? We need to make Natopia a place that people will want to come to. Spiff up our image. Give ourselves a unique twist on something that will attract active people.
We could base our government on a non-mainstream government system... i.e. communism.. but i know nothing about communism or anyother government system.
Ziegeland's royalty seems to be kinda fun for UP citizens, but royal monarchies are so overdone in micronationalism.
Introduce more elements of humor into our government. Infuse it with humor. i.e. truly and totally change the Grand Natopian Senate in the Legislative Frenzy.
I know i said it before, but we could return to ultra-pure Lindstromism. but that would eleminate the power of the Senate and would rely soley on the Grand Judge to maintain fairness. And Grand Judge Robert has not been around lately... i do hope he is doing well.
move towards a democratic system. all matters are handled by vote... increase particpation, but will strangle Natopia is times like these.
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Post by wheelchairman on Jan 2, 2005 7:14:42 GMT -6
Well you can do a traditional feudalist approach. You would be the single sovereign ruling power and completely own all the land. Then you would delegate administrative powers based on region, to certain people you trusted, and then they would delegate a little more to people they trusted, and then they would do the same. But that requires an active population.
You could do either an American democratic system, in which you had two chambers, and each chamber had different lengths of servitutude excetra, and then you'd also have an executive (president) branch and a judicial (court) branch.
Or you could base it on the English Parliamentary system, which is also cool.
You could try communism. but that is not a form of government but more a form of economy. It would be kinda pointless, you could just try direct democracy instead. (vote on everything, all the time.) Although if you were considering creating a one party state, that would be interesting, but it would require an in-depth theoretical knowledge of communism, have you thought about fascism though? That could be interesting.
You could try anarcho syndicalism, which would just be a union of decentralized communes. Or try an Islamic government, or a ba'athist one, but then you'd have to understand your inspirational material, because most people tend to be stupid when it comes to either one.
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Post by Nathan on Jan 2, 2005 18:17:46 GMT -6
Ziegeland kinda has a semi-feudal system. it united with anoher of Natopia's Regions, Lochhatonia, into a United Principality, with me and the former head of Lochhatonia serving as dinarchs. I've made my friends dukes and counts and barons and the like... but i just gave them titles just coz they're my friends... they wont be participating online.
The region of Tasneemia, is an Islamic Republic. Robert Davis set up the constitution and everything... but with only him and Tasneem being citizens... not much has happened.
We kinda already have a one-party state.. the Free Juice and Bagel Party is the one and only ruling party.... we could expand its influence in our government though...
how would we base a government on fascism? i dont want Natopia to be "evil" though... how can that attract people?
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Post by wheelchairman on Jan 9, 2005 14:47:27 GMT -6
Well if you don't want Fascism to be evil, it will require studying, you will need to find ways to use examples of past monarchs to look evil (which shouldn't be too hard, half of them being insane and whatnot) but as well make democracy look evil and worthless.
Fascism's fundament is based on a lack of faith in the majority of the people. It is economically conservative (meaning preservation of one's own resources over importation of other's, you prefer exporting because that makes you money, but you will have a high tariff on all imports and don't like importing.)
People's lives will be relatively untouched as long as they obey the law, you will have to have distaste for democracy and foster a feeling of fight for the right to your position. A surivival of the fittest type of government is what you will want. No cooperation but competition in all sense.
And you will need to make yourself The Leader.
You probably won't be well liked, but if you do it right, you will likely be well-respected. And it will be an interesting new aspect to MN.
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Post by Nathan on Jan 9, 2005 16:03:08 GMT -6
i dont have that type of personality... id rather be well liked.... i dont think i could pull it off
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Post by Tasneem on Jan 9, 2005 17:46:04 GMT -6
Yeah, I definitely think you couldn't do it
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Post by alrodria on Feb 28, 2005 14:16:53 GMT -6
I like Natopia the way it is.
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Post by Nathan on Mar 3, 2005 21:18:21 GMT -6
me too
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Post by Tasneem on Mar 3, 2005 21:19:20 GMT -6
me three
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Post by alrodria on Mar 26, 2005 10:13:32 GMT -6
I think we just need to find more people, I think Natopia can atract them as it is.
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Post by Nathan on Mar 26, 2005 14:37:59 GMT -6
ya know whats weird about that? Natopia seems to attract foreign nations seeking diplomatic ties very well... only 2 or 3 of Natopia's current diplomatic relationships were actually initiated by Natopia... so apparently international opinion of Natopia is very good....
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