My Opinion on Alexandria, Edgard, and more

[Brian Capelle]

It seems as if my opinion on Alexandria offered a recent bit of controversy.

Now that I think about it, my mention of what I thought of Alexandria itself is unwarranted and I apologize for THAT bit of immaturity. However I do stand by my opinion on the person I consider to be the face of Alexandria, Edgard Portela.

Towards the end of last year, as you know, Sullifree dealt with an unwarranted attack at the hands of Babkha and furthermore the Great Commonwealth. Babkha out of the blue after practically never having any sort of relationship at all "attacked" Sullifree's forum, claiming that they had overtaken Sullifree. I shrugged this off, banned the culprit (who later it became apparent was the honorable Robert Davis who had no real apparent quarrel with Sullifree) and was fine until Babkha informed the MCS that they had taken us over and they should mark the claim as disputed.

Meanwhile I wanted to extend the hand of friendship to all of the nations who had allied with Natopia. The response I got from who is apparently Alexandria's, if nothing else, foreign minister, was unsettling, especially considering the absurdity, ridiculousness, and immaturity of that "war" in which Babkha apparently thought it was OK to be hostile to a nation that refuses to recwar, was fairly independent, small, and against Babkha blatantly defenseless. Because apparently its ok to force a recwar on a nation that does not recwar, ESPECIALLY if they were never hostile to you.

-Emperor Edgard II

Please leave Alexandria at once, we do not wish to have relations with the enemy of our ally, the GC.

Good day.

-UAI Advocate

Someone should perhaps check Treaties and Alliances in each nation before putting his foot into his mouth?

-Matthieu Poiters

really.

PM. Poiters. Serving Alexandria.

-AugustoBenavides

Now that Sullifree has become part of Natopia, a member of the Novasolum Treaty, what is our posture towards them?

And if a conflict does arise between the Grand Commonwealth and Natopia, should we remain neutral or should we honor one of treaties and void the other.

-Emperor Edgard II

Well, since we share an alliance with both nations, I think it is imperative that we remain neutral.

-Fabiola Douay

Maybe the old treaties should be voided and new ones drawn up?

-Emperor Edgard II

Hmmm, I'm not sure about that. It was a bit hard to get the mutual protection treaty with the Grand Commonwealth right. I wouldn't want to scrap it after the Foreign Office's hard work.

-AugustoBenavides

I agree with His Majesty, "if it works... don't fix it"

-Fabiola Douay

But does it work? If it works, why are we deciding which stance to take? I believe we should amend the treaty to suit our needs.

After this banter where I have been clearly rudely "shooed" I try to make my case:

-Brian

1. I am /was an enemy with ONE MEMBER of the GC.
2. The conflict with them seems to have subsided.
3. If you have paid any attention to the situation, you will know beyond doubt that the GC were only being jackasses to us and claimed their reasoning was to give me "a good kick." The attack we supposedly carried out? Not us, and that one is obvious. We do not believe in micronational military, and never approved of the attack at all. There are even members of the GC, not only individuals but entire nations, who realize what a load this really was.
4. Excuse me for trying to be a friend.

-HIH Prince Enrique Portela

ok...ok...ok. We asked you once, now again i ask you, please leave the premecise. The Empire of the Alexandrians, though friends with Natopia, will not make a statement due to the fact that we have a Mutual Protection Treaty with the Grand Commonwealth.

At the moment, we shall remain neutral and not look into the matter.

respectfully,

The bottom line is until Natopia got involved they supported the GC for no reason that they were "allies" despite the moral implications and when Natopia got involved they decided to remain "neutral." Would I have had a problem with their neutrality in general? No, especially if it came before Natopian involvement. What left me in bad will is that I was put off like a worthless piece of trash. I had never acted in a rude manner towards Alexandria and I should have been welcomed to participate in General DIscussion as a foreigner instead of being banned with words as opposed to actually banned.

So to Alexandria I apologize. I don't really think Alexandria is that bad. In fact now that I think about it I apologise to Edgard for using profanity towards him. But I do not apologize for the fact that he has never treated me respectfully whenever he approached me. And I feel terribly slighted, degraded, and prejudiced against for no reason. I feel like he has the opinion that I am worthless and that he is better than me, even though Sullifree predates Alexandria... and I mean the first one.

And once again I apologise for my brash action. Although I am put off by Stormark issuing a resolution that basically derided me for using free speech, especially without learning all the facts, when I DO have an inherent right to speak my mind.

[Brian Capelle]

And note that Edgard is asserting he "never dealt with" Sullifree when we were independent? May it be apparent in this post that that is a downright lie---unless he construes this as an issue with me and not Sullifree even though I was representing Sullifree in this situation.

And also note my account has been banned from Alexandria which I assume is to ensure that I can use no more of my posts there as well as theirs to back up my argument when it comes to my problems with Edgard. I want to resolve this is a mature manner but both of these actions seem to prove that there are individuals who do not want me to be able to resolve this conflict. I really do want it to turn alright in the end, I hope these posts can enlighten people on my reasoning and help them understand my point of view.

[vikingempress]

We really dont care how much you hate them, that's personal and nobody's business. The problem that we had with your statement applied to the callous nature, and the personal attack on the Emperor of Alexandria. All we wanted was some sort of explanation so we could understand where your hostilities stemmed from.

Alexandria sided with it's treaty partner, the GC - and only by not wishing to have an enemy to the GC within their borders. Most nations with a treaty of that sort would have done the same. The treaty was brand new to the Alexandrians, and they worked hard to get it. Therefore, they had no desire to see it flushed for any reason whatsoever. Perhaps their reaction to you was over the top, but that is in the past - Sullifree is no longer a nation (so far as I know), and whatever relationship you had with the Alexandrians then should NOT translate to your relationship with them now, as a Natopian. Holding onto grudges like that does noone any good at all, and as you can see, causes nothing but trouble and further resentment. Nobody in Alexandria really had a problem with you as a person until that statement was made.

What you said in your post, was that Emperor Edgard II

seemed to agree that its ok to attack a nation that does not recwar

He never claimed that he agreed with the actions of the GC and Babkha - at least no place that I've seen. He merely ensured that someone seen as Babkha's enemy wasn't allowed safe travel in Alexandria.

Stormark did not issue a Resolution of any sort. We merely asked for clarification on the statement made, and expressed outrage at the manner of the comment. And we do NOT have a problem with free speech. But we DO have a problem with seemingly unfounded attacks on allied Heads of State, and the use of vulgarity as a means for communication of thoughts. Freedom of Speech of course, but maturity and being better than a foul-mouthed houligan at the same time.

All that being said, we understand your feelings - and even though we disagree with holding a grudge against someone as you switch nations and positions, there's no law of man against having feelings. Your apology shows wisdom, and it's appreciated. We wish you well.

PS - you were banned in Alexandria as an act of the people, not one person. THEY decided collectively that they didn't want you in their nation.

[Brian Capelle]

I don't feel that it was wrong for them to go with their treaty in terms of the actual war. I felt it was wrong that I was shooed away like some bug. I would have preferred a "We don't want relationship with your nation at the current time due to your conflict with the Great Commonwealth which we have a treaty with" then the brash reaction that I got which basically said I was unwelcome from Alexandria in any way whatsoever just because Edgard said so. I want to know why they had to put me down so disrespectfully. I want to know why I couldn't even post in general topics, why I had to just go away. It's not that I wasn't treated like a good Sullifreean, I wasn't treated like a good human being and that won't change irregardless of the nation in which I reside.

But as far as me holding a grudge---do you think the US should forgive Osama bin Laden because the attacks occured 5 years ago? Should we forgive the killer of JFK because that happened decades ago? An incident calming down does not fix the scars that it has permanently created.

My "seemingly unfounded" attack on allied head of state was part of my right to free speech in Natopia where it is guaranteed to all citizens and as a human being. I was not in a position of significant power at the time and what I said in NATOPIA is NATOPIA's business. And what I say about Alexandria I also feel is Alexandria's business. I didn't attack them with hostility which is where your treaty would have allowed you to come in, I simply stated the fact that previous actions offended and annoyed me.

Again, my statement about Alexandria was unfounded and to my knowledge it is an OK nation as a whole.

But understand... Sullifree is like, a part of me, something even when it wasn't active on the internet I still thought about in personal life, so I am going to feel that way about the nation irrespective of any other citizenships. I never attacked Alexandria nor had any intention of doing so.

The fact that you are willing to talk about this in a mature manner rather than just pushing me off without letting me say what I want is appreciated on my part.

[vikingempress]

I understand your feelings, Brian. And I am sorry that events led you to harbor such ill feelings for some. And I believe in forgiveness for everyone, even Osama bin Laden. Could the entire nation forgive? Of course not - because as a whole, people are not that kind. Individually they may be, but not collectively.

I think this issue has been more than adequately settled. I am sorry for any stress this ordeal has put you under personally - my actions have been in the interest of defending my nation and my Emperor. I hope you can understand that motivation. Take care.

[Brian Capelle]

OK... this issue may have been adequately settled with Stormark, but it hasn't been adequately settled with Alexandria and Edgard.

Edgard, when and if you get here to read this, my feelings about this are settling more... perhaps I just needed people to find out how I felt... and I do need YOU to understand how I feel as well. I apologize to YOU personally for what I said. I should have expressed my opinion in a manner moreso like this post than that one. Profanity iks unbecoming, and we all slip up and use it, but what I said about you and Alexandria was harsh and unfounded. Though I've never had much of any relationship with Alexandria I apologize to all the people of Alexandria who have been insulted because I have problems with the way I was treated by one or two people, and I want those people to know I should not have acted in the way I did even though I still dissaprove of how I was treated. Perhaps we can discuss this further here online, or if you must contact me privately please reach me at grand.prince aT gmail DoT com.

[augustobenavides]

Mr. Capelle,

I will make sure that the Emperor receives this information, until then, I have no choice but to stand on my decision about your status.

Regards,