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Post by Nathan on Apr 23, 2005 23:49:57 GMT -6
ok... lets get this all straight
currently, the OBH is nothing more than a society of honored Natopians. members are Protectors and the leader of the order is the Defender of the Nation.
i propose that the OBH be the outlet of the royal/monarchial system in Natopia.
the Defender will now be the Sovereign of the Order. Protectors will be Knights. Only the Sovereign may add Knights to the Order and only the Sovereign may expel Knights from the Order.
Knights will be granted a Peerage of Baron/Baroness and dominion over their own Demesne.
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Post by Nathan on Apr 24, 2005 11:58:32 GMT -6
perhaps even make the Sovereign the Head of State and the Grand Chancellor the Head of Government, since the chancellor will be an elected office, the Sovereign will hold their office for life and guide/guard the national customs/identity of Natopia.
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Post by Nathan on Apr 24, 2005 12:00:17 GMT -6
no... nevermind... i think the chancellor should be head of state, just based on all the confusion in Lavalon where their head of state has little politial power...
although... maybe someone else can make that arrangment work?
comments, suggestions? anyone?
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Post by Nathan on Apr 24, 2005 18:18:10 GMT -6
oh yeah.. and we can incorporate the duties of the Imperial College of Arms into the OBH as well. the College was in charge of making cultural things... and since the OBH is the defender of culture, it only makes sense to have them also *create* the cultural artifacts and maintain them right?
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Post by Nathan on Apr 24, 2005 18:19:04 GMT -6
jeeze... 4 posts in row.... please, anyone... jump in anytime
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Post by Nathan on Apr 24, 2005 20:31:07 GMT -6
ok... perhaps that face betrayed my true emotions... seriously... make a comment... or ill just executute the lot of ya
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Post by Tasneem on Apr 24, 2005 20:31:35 GMT -6
Wow, nice one way conversation there
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Post by Nathan on Apr 24, 2005 20:31:58 GMT -6
i mean "or ill execute the lot of ya " yeah... thats better *sits down*
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Post by Tasneem on Apr 24, 2005 22:35:35 GMT -6
Haha, that's awesome
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Post by MasterRDavis on Apr 26, 2005 12:16:19 GMT -6
I've been keeping quiet, and letting you think things out. Just like you've been doing. I agree that we should just have ONE head of state. We're nowhere near big enough to invest power like that in more than one person; it would be a waste. The rest of the changes will be made over time; we should NOT feel rushed. If we take our time and do this gradually, we will survive longer and make less mistakes. I think we should convene a special Conference with the Transformation of our Government and Society as the main goals.
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Post by Nathan on Apr 26, 2005 14:24:43 GMT -6
sounds good... a pub is no place for talks such as these.
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Post by Nathan on Apr 27, 2005 16:20:48 GMT -6
do we want to incorporate different Ranks? in the Ziegeland tradition of giving out peerages... well... i just let people pick the title they liked the best (lol... yeah) and some people preferred Counts (specifically Joel who's a Founder and member of the OBH)
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Post by MasterRDavis on Apr 28, 2005 2:25:54 GMT -6
I don't know about the whole "Ranks" thing. It depends on what our intentions are. If we want to reward those more dedicated with titles that "rank" higher than those who are only here sometimes, or nearly not at all; then yeah, we should create a few levels. If the idea is just to give everyone something equal to call "home" - then just letting people choose what to get called would be fine, I guess. I personally like the idea of higher ranking titles for those who have been working hard to keep this dream alive. Should we go with that, I propose the following titles - in rank from highest to lowest: Archduke / Archduchess Kurfürst (unisex) Duke / Duchess Boyar (unisex) Count / Countess Viscount / Viscountess I've taken titles from various sources and mixed them somewhat...since we can do that.
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Post by Nathan on Apr 28, 2005 13:58:31 GMT -6
I agree... i think there should be a few levels of prestige in the OBH... Neem, for instance, has been here the whole time, and you, while not as long, have contributed more than almost every other citizen combined.... i dont think it would be fair to but you on the same level as people who havent helped out latly... and... well... it'll give them a goal to shoot for
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Post by TheRevisionist on Apr 28, 2005 14:06:45 GMT -6
im replying cuz im so kool!.... ;D welll although joel(me) might like the title count if you want to give him a higher rank, he would glady accept, for if that is what you want(higher rank=happi joel)...and all you smart people joel spelt happy with an i on purpose so go away! -joel(now operating in third person)
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