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Post by Nathan on Nov 26, 2005 0:49:58 GMT -6
The Sovereign Natopian Empire hereby wishes to publically announce its support for the Principality of Sullifree. The Grand Commonwealth has no grounds to claim sovereign Sullifreean territory. Not only are we bound by treaty to support Sullifree, we are bound by our morality and ethical standards.
We do note, however, that had Sullifree agreed to a recwar where an exchange of lands would take place, this ridiculous dispute would be credible. Sullifree, however, is a nation known to not recwar, and has not agreed to such a thing in this situation.
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Post by MasterRDavis on Nov 26, 2005 9:15:40 GMT -6
This doesnt look anything like a recwar. This looks to me like Babkha using role-play and having a good time while going through proper channels to have Sullifree removed from the MCS map. I may be wrong here, but when I look at the Sullifree Forums, I see basically ONE person who is a citizen and being active. Xon was a cit there but I see he's resigned. I dont see anyone else participating. I realise Sullifree is a tiny spot of land overall, but it's still land that's gone to a nation with one citizen and apparently no hope for growth (considering that there's been plenty of time for growth, but no indication thereof). This "attack" on Sullifree has seen the biggest boon in Forum activity there in a while.
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Post by Brian Capelle on Nov 26, 2005 10:48:58 GMT -6
It's still not nice.
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Post by MasterRDavis on Nov 26, 2005 11:14:47 GMT -6
Very true...it's NOT nice at all. But I dont recall the Babkhans ever claiming to be nice people.
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Post by Nathan on Nov 26, 2005 14:24:26 GMT -6
What exactly is the difference, then, between recwarring and role playing? To my knowledge, recwarring IS role playing about war. Regardless of Sullifree's activity and Babkha's meanness... Sullifree is a sovereign nation and has a right to its MCS territory until a time as it willingly gives it up.
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Post by Tasneem on Nov 26, 2005 16:05:21 GMT -6
Well, we don't have to sit here and accept Babkha's meanness! There's no correlation between Babkha's meanness and Sullifree's activity that could justify their takeover
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Post by Brian Capelle on Nov 26, 2005 16:23:57 GMT -6
Preach on, sista!
And you know, Stormark, a nation siding with Babkha, is a Natopian ally... eew
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Post by Harald of Stormark on Nov 26, 2005 18:57:38 GMT -6
Stormark is also an ally of the Grand Commonwealth and we are always willing to provide military assistance to an ally if it is possible.
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Post by Brian Capelle on Nov 26, 2005 21:13:39 GMT -6
Let's say you're Spain. The US invades the UK, because the UK says... let's say... no US company can own a catering business there. As Spain, you are an ally of the US... are you still going to support the US in its conflict? This is EXACTLY how frivolous this whole thing is, except we have not even done something as small as THAT to Babkha!
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Post by MasterRDavis on Nov 26, 2005 21:16:30 GMT -6
I guess that depends. If the US invaded the UK when the UK only had one citizen left? I would certainly be the Spain that backs the US; there's not much future the other way around.
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Post by Brian Capelle on Nov 26, 2005 21:41:03 GMT -6
290,000,000 to one? maybe. Approx 30 to 7? doubt it.
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Post by Brian Capelle on Nov 26, 2005 21:42:34 GMT -6
And this was an objective perspective on the reasoning, not the citizen count.
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Post by MasterRDavis on Nov 27, 2005 12:58:22 GMT -6
Well the citizen count kinda matters in little cases like this. But it doesn't really matter anymore. Ryan will eventually decide the fate of the argument on his own. I heard something about Sullifree becoming a Demesne?? Where is that proposal located, cause this old man cant seem to find it.
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Post by Tasneem on Nov 27, 2005 17:45:51 GMT -6
It's like saying that attacking the small guy, cause he's only one person, with a group of a ton of people is okay, because you're in a majority and he's not.
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Post by Brian Capelle on Nov 27, 2005 18:24:50 GMT -6
PROUDLY exalts neem for that one---perhaps knights her? have not decided yet. And it's not like we just give knighthoods away every day, I am just trying to thank all who help me regarding the biggest hump of idiocy we have ever faced.
And btw, Babkha threatened to bomb our forums on MCS. I raised the flood control rediculously in response.
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