The Lindstrom Pact

[Nathan]

I'll get a rough draft of a document ready sometime this week (i have finals monday - wednesday). Naturally anyone else can present their own draft for discussion. So maybe on Thursday I will post it and hopefully we can debate over a concrete document rather than the abstract idea it is now.

[olorix]

The only thing about a Congress of small nations...any resolution that didn't only affect the small nations would ignored. And if we have seperate Congresses for medium-sized and small nations, then we will also logically have Congresses for the "superpowers", however unofficial these are. Funnily enough, these might be closer to the Balance of Power that existed in Europe a century or so ago. The danger is that this "superpowered Congress" would probably pass resolutions, or reach agreements, or forge blood-signed contracts with daemons, that would affect the other nations, because of their very size. This is another reason why I propose that a Congress where all are represented equally (but perhaps without equal bargaining power) is more reasonable, if not more fair, than a Congress where the illusion of an equal footing for all is provided, and then quickly demolished when the mini-Congress tries to do anything.

A group of small nations is immensely powerful if they act together. Nevertheless, it is in your best interests to argue against it considering you would be locked out of such an arrangement, but again, I think that the Non-Aligned Movement, the G77 and the United Nations General Assembly all prove that when small nations get together, they can actually have some degree of voice.

The idea of having non-equal bargaining power between states is utterly repugnant to me, and quite frankly seems to mimic the paternalistic neo-colonial imperialist attitudes that forced the United Nations Security Council to have veto power over the General Assembly.

Unless I'm missing the point entirely, and what people would like is secret discussion between smaller nations which the larger nations are not aware of. That's an entire other kettle of fish.

I think it's more just that having superpower involvement immediately makes the situation ineffective, because the superpower's disproportionate power will effectively scare everyone else into submission if there is opposition to the will of the largest nations.

[Brian Capelle]

President Woodrow,

were you not the person from Woodstania who "attacked" our forums? If so, then why the change of heart about the UC?

And btw, the UC discussions will continue at unitedconfed.proboards75.com/